Curse

upier · May 22, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

I totally wouldn't mind it.
Watch me not care if Ursan gets better.
So /signed I guess.

Besides - considering that the guys at A.Net think that better e-denial options is what the PvE mesmer needs - I am guessing a buff to Ursan is SOOOO happening next month!

Dylananimus · May 22, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52

Whether you think we're flaming or not (though obviously I'm only 12 so what do I know right?), the fact remains that UB is NOT meant to give you a full skill bar that you COULD come up with yourself. Yunno, a skill bar that does have self healing

Forget UB and go back to the drawing board if you want to pick and choose your skill set, it's more fun that way, trust me.

legion_rat · May 22, 2008, 12:52 PM // 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steps_Descending

The thing is, Rat, that your are proposing a buff to an already overpowered and hated skill. You cannot expect anything else.
UB has 1 weekness (not counting the possibility of the player playing it) : Lack of healing. Thought when you think about it... The skill the OP propose is insignificant anyway, so they could add it for RP value and UB wouldn't get stronger.

EDIT : WOW this thread goes FAST!!!

thank you. I know its hated, but if you dont like it dont use it. Hell I dont use it much. one of the reasons for my post. I dont use it enough to see its overpowered as everyone whines about.

~the rat~

Avarre · May 22, 2008, 12:59 PM // 12:59

I have discovered the exact nature of the next buff to Ursan. Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

pOmrAkkUn · May 22, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

buff raven and volfen blessing gogo xD

miskav · May 22, 2008, 01:02 PM // 13:02

...choke on an apple please, seriously.

Witchblade · May 22, 2008, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Anyone seriously willing to buff ursan should be burned at the stake

Abedeus · May 22, 2008, 01:05 PM // 13:05

Okay. My discussion:

Anyone thinking the most unbalanced skill needs a buff to make it a farming build for soloing anything, he's a total idiot, retard and he should not play online games.

Please, by saying ,,dont like it dont use it'' you are insulting everyone in the game. ONLINE game. On-line. This means other people play it too. Want godmode? Go play offline game. Make an uber character in diablo 2 and laugh at Hell's difficulty because monsters can't scratch your great character.

Oh, wait. I'll make a new thread. ,,Make Abedeus' Blessing ples!!''
And skillbar:

[build prof=Ri/D name="Abedeus' Blessing"][Glyph of Renewal][Shadow Form][Glyph of Energy][Echo][Mantra of Concentration][Shockwave][Elemental Attunement][Meteor Shower][/build]

Would that BE UBER FUN?!

stretchs · May 22, 2008, 01:06 PM // 13:06

While the concept of the addition fits into the mold of what could be a good skill, it doesnt stand a chance in this ursan raged community. Until they reword things so that this skill isnt overpowered, this community/gw as a whole will disagree with just about anything suggested outside of drawing and quartering the skill

Sethellington · May 22, 2008, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

What Ursans Deserve

1/2 Cast Time, 10 Seconds Recharge

For 60 seconds, you are invincible. After 60 seconds, your account is deleted.

Want to see that...

There was no way this wasn't going to turn into a "Ursan is overpowered and I think I'm better than everyone because i refuse to use it QQ" thread.

FrAnt1c² · May 22, 2008, 01:11 PM // 13:11

/Posting in an epic UB flaming thread before it gets closed

Dylananimus · May 22, 2008, 01:11 PM // 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretchs

While the concept of the addition fits into the mold of what could be a good skill, it doesnt stand a chance in this ursan raged community. Until they reword things so that this skill isnt overpowered, this community/gw as a whole will disagree with just about anything suggested outside of drawing and quartering the skill

I think you're missing the point.

UB is not meant to give you a one-click solo build. That's not how it's meant to work, so expecting anybody to be taken seriously when they expect solo builds to be handed to them that easily is a little...presumptuous. It ain't gonna happen.

UB is not a solo skill set, end of discussion. Want a solo build with self healing? There are tons out there. Asking for UB to give you that with just the press of a key? A bit silly.

Malice Black · May 22, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12

masta_yoda · May 22, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

hahaha dont want to see a team full of 8 ursans r10 ..then i cant join

trankle · May 22, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion_rat

whats funny is no one, and I mean no one, discussed what the real problem was, just flamed. I suppose when someone deals with 12 yr olds they get those type of responses.

The real problem is that in addition to providing significant offensive capabilites, Ursan also already has defensive benefits for the entire team.

Offense:
- spammable, unblockable, armor ignoring damage (Ursan Strike)
- low recharge AoE damage (Ursan Rage)
- party-wide damage buffing (Ursan Roar)

Defense:
- low recharge AoE knockdown provides both AoE interrupts and temporary disabling of all affected foes (Ursan Rage)
- AoE Weakness decreases enemy auto-attack damage, which especially in HM, can add up quickly (Ursan Roar)

This is on top of the health and armor bonuses, of course.

So there really isn't a problem by not having a self-heal. Ursan is already a powerhouse combining offense and defense. Throw a few Ursans into a party, and the only thing really left to worry about is healing. That's already pushing it, in what is designed to be a team game - no build is supposed to be an island.

take_me · May 22, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

You can't be serious................

Esan · May 22, 2008, 01:17 PM // 13:17

I support the OP's campaign to turn Ursan Blessing into a healing skill. Remove all the other useless Ursan skills.

Malice Black · May 22, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

This guide tells you how to Ursan pro style

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10290327

Alexandra-Sweet · May 22, 2008, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion_rat

Mothers Tongue
5 1 10
For next 5 secs all crit hits heal for 30 health

That would be unfair towards casters using Ursan, since they rarely Crit, and Assassins get an advantage over all other professions.

And as for Ursan being overpowered:
Dynos have the right to use Twisting Jaws, players have the right to use Ursan Strike.

Modniir have the right to use Trample, players have the right to use Ursan Rage.

All enemy in high end areas have a higher level, higher armor rating and higher health Ursan Blessing evens it up.

It's just that the AI kind of sucks in PvE so Ursan prevails

BlackSephir · May 22, 2008, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

And as for Ursan being overpowered:
Dynos have the right to use Twisting Jaws, players have the right to use Ursan Strike.

Bwahahahahahah.
Players have or at least should have brains.